Latest Cabrera to the Angels Update: No Deal?

ESPN’s Jason Stark has the latest update on the Miguel Cabrera discussions.

First comes the settled part:

The two teams appear to have agreed that second baseman Howie Kendrick and catcher Jeff Mathis would be part of any deal.

But where it gets complicated is the Marlins demand for two top notch pitching prospects:

According to baseball men who have spoken with both teams, the clubs have talked about three young starting pitchers — Ervin Santana, Joe Saunders and the Angels’ best pitching prospect, Nick Adenhart. But the Angels apparently weren’t willing to trade two pitchers from that group without changes to the other half of the package.

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Robb Nen on Hall of Fame Ballot

National Baseball Hall of FameRobb Nen is one of several players to debut on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. He joins another former Fish Andre Dawson and Tim Raines, on the list. If Nen gets voted in, he would represent the first real Marlin to make it in as he spent 5 of his 10 seasons with the Fish and won his only World Series in 1997. Also, it was the Marlins who converted him into a closer.

Results will be announced on January 8, 2008. Here is the full list of players on the ballot

  • Brady Anderson
  • Harold Baines
  • Rod Beck
  • Bert Blyleven
  • Dave Concepcion
  • Andre Dawson
  • Shawon Dunston
  • Chuck Finley
  • Travis Fryman
  • Rich “Goose” Gossage
  • Tommy John
  • David Justice
  • Chuck Knoblauch
  • Don Mattingly
  • Mark McGwire
  • Jack Morris
  • Dale Murphy
  • Robb Nen
  • Dave Parker
  • Tim Raines
  • Jim Rice
  • Jose Rijo
  • Lee Smith
  • Todd Stottlemyre
  • Alan Trammell

Download Marlins Games on iTunes

We’re sorry that we neglected to mention this a few weeks back but we noticed that you can now download three full Marlins games on iTunes. Your choices (with links):

White Sox Trying to Acquire a “Big Fish”

The Chicago White Sox have acquired Cabrera. That is, Orlando Cabrera from the Angels.

But that’s not the story here.

Looks like they’re focused on an all-Cabrera left side of the infield as their GM Ken Williams claims that this deal clears some financial room ($3MM) for another deal. And that deal is:

“We’re not done yet. We’re still trying to land a big fish,” Williams said.

You know who which fish he’s talking about.

Broward Stadium? Can You Hear the Crickets?

If you’re like me and you wished Broward would have pushed for a Marlins stadium, then I’m sure you’ll enjoy the next story. I’ve heard about this before but I never thought it would happen:

The long-awaited, $70 million Central Broward Regional Park — the most expensive new park the county has built — opens today, drawing local dignitaries and international cricket officials to one of the most ethnically diverse cities in South Florida. The 110-acre site, at the intersection of State Road 7 and Sunrise Boulevard, is a sprawling campus of picnic shelters, pavilions and shaded playgrounds. In the middle sits a 5,000-seat multipurpose stadium designed as the first international cricket venue in North America.

We would like to congratulate Broward for its fine investment. Having the only international Cricket venue in North America (yes, even the Canadians don’t have one) is sure something to put on the chamber of commerce brochures. Definitely better than being the home of 2-time World Series Champions the Florida Marlins.

Update: And look at that, this new Cricket park has failed to generate economic benefit to the community.

Why the Florida Marlins Should Trade Miguel Cabrera

We’ve been debating here what to do with Miguel Cabrera and here is one view:

The more I think about it, the more I am OK with trading Cabrera (assuming the trade is for value).

With all this Cabrera talk, did anybody every realize that trading him might not be the a bad thing for the club? First, they can get a lot in return (and are apparently asking for a lot). Second, given the Marlins’ revenue constraints, is Cabrera really worth the cost?

Take a look at these stats… Is Cabrera really that far ahead of Hanley or Uggla?

Player POS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG
Cabrera 3B 157 588 91 188 38 2 34 119 332 79 127 2 1 .401 .565 .320
Ramirez SS 154 639 125 212 48 6 29 81 359 52 95 51 14 .386 .562 .332
Uggla 2B 159 632 113 155 49 3 31 88 303 68 167 2 1 .326 .476 .245


Hanley struck out 30% less while having 10% more total bases than Cabrera and still hitting nearly 30 home runs and having nearly identical slugging percentage. That, and Ramirez can steal bases while Cabrera prefers to eat them. Uggla, in the meantime, strikes out way too much, but puts up very respectable numbers. So, while losing Cabrera would mean losing a well known player, it doesn’t, necessarily, hurt the team’s offense as much as, say, the Heat playing without Dwayne Wade or any football team losing its quarterback (not using the Dolphins as an example since they don’t really have a good quarterback). The question then has to be asked, with Ramirez and Uggla (not to mention Hermida, Willingham, and Jacobs — all of whom can hit 20 home runs and in Hermida’s case, for average if healthy), is Cabrera really the “franchise player” on which the future of this team hangs? Or is this just a popularity issue?

Now, if you are the Marlins, you can keep Cabrera for now but can you keep him in the future (and will you want to?). In the long run (even with a stadium) it will be impossible to keep Cabrera and Ramirez (in addition to young pitchers like Olsen, Nolasco, Sanchez, Mitre, and Johnson). In fact with many of those joining the team at the same time, it seems that down the road the Marlins will hit a time when these young talented players will all be arbitration eligible during the same year and their salaries will increase exponentially. Even with a stadium, the Marlins will never have a revenue stream like the Yankees or Red Sox which will allow them to sign and keep all those players. In other words, Cabrera will either get traded some day or be lost to free agency. Alternatively, the Marlins could plan to keep Cabrera in the long run but that would mean planning on losing one of the other young talented players. Would you keep Cabrera, a player who has shown himself to be lazy and indifferent at times and who for two seasons now has been completely unable to control his physical conditioning and declining defensive skills, or do you keep the guys that hustle and will be able to do something other than hitting? Last I checked baseball does not maintain separate defensive and offensive squads. The concern is that while Cabrera will become the equivalent of Pavel Bure — offensively flashy, defensively useless, and always a member of a losing team, guys like Ramirez and Uggla are dedicated and hardworking.

That leaves the last question — do you keep Cabrera now, knowing that he will be gone in the future? That depends on whether you can get the trade value you want. This team has many holes that need to be filled in. After last year, we can all admit there is much room for improvement. Trading Cabrera is the most efficient way to fill those holes while securing this team’s on-field future.

About Those Trades That Haven’t Happened…

You probably noticed that we’ve recently been staying away from all the news about Dontrelle Willis and Miguel Cabrera potentially being traded to every team on the universe. Until we hear something concrete we won’t link to those speculative articles being written everywhere.

P.S.: We may, though, make fun of these articles.

The A-Rod-O-Meter Bursts

I think we will start to put the A-Rod rumors on some kind of scale or meter where 0 means he is not coming and 100 means he is here. For example, anything speculated by the writers in the Sun-Sentinel or Miami Herald is -10 on the scale.

Take a look at the latest speculation from our esteemed local papers. On it’s face it’s a -10. But, it adds some weight:

One thing Beinfest didn’t do in Thursday’s teleconference with local beat writers: scotch the idea.

Yes, we now have a story written on what Beinfest didn’t say. Therefore, we are officially raising the A-Rod meter to 1. We are a mere 99 points/degrees away from success.