• If We Ever Get a Stadium, It Will Look Like a UFO

  • Fish Chunks found an interesting interview with Geoff Cheong who is part of the team designing the Marlins ballpark at HOK. Here are the key passages:

    At work he has been busy helping design the exterior of the Florida Marlins’ 38,000-seat stadium.

    “It’s bound to be controversial, which is not a bad thing because it gets people talking,” Cheong says. “Some people may think it looks like a spaceship, while others will see it as a piece of art. The Marlins’ owner is an art collector and he’s made it known he wants the stadium to be a ball park as well as piece of sculpture.”

    Part of the expected controversy is the stadium’s location—amid a number of single-storey homes.

    The building is also being designed to be environmentally friendly by adhering to the silver LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) standard. Achieving that will rest—in part—to the building’s retractable roof which will allow it to be air conditioned during the hot and humid Florida weather.

    One unique feature will be the movable outfield wall which when removed will provide good views of the city’s skyline, and permit a natural flow of air across the grass field.

    That’s important for the natural grass to adequately dry out, says Cheong, adding great consideration was also given to the building’s orientation so the grass could receive a daily minimum of four hours of exposure to sunlight to keep it healthy.

    “It was important to have a real grass field,” Cheong says. “The players prefer it. You even get some players using that as a way deciding which team they want to play for.”

    Innovative and “green” design is a new trend in downtown construction but is unfamiliar in the baseball universe. The Marlins ballpark is clearly going to be different from every ballpark built since 1990 in that it will look more like modern art (think of the Birds Nest and Aquatic Center in Beijing) rather than the nth new retro ballpark. The risk here is that you end up another Skydome — cool and space age at first, but ultimately out of date — but then again you could also end up with another US Cellular Field where retro can feel like a fake shopping center.

    Note: I personally prefer modern although I always assumed some form of Art Deco or Cuban-inspired design would work well. That being said, I just want a new ballpark and a roof so the Marlins can survive and compete.

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  • Judge Loses Control of Braman Trial

  • The circus surrounding the Norm Braman trial continued today when Judge Jeri Beth Cohen postponed a decision on one of the two remaining issues for at least 5 weeks. The issue in question is whether money can be reallocated for a different purpose without a referendum. The Judge wants to wait for a Florida Supreme Court reconsideration of case concerning reallocation of bond funds.

    Frankly, this seems like the only real legal issue left in this case so everything else that happened is irrelevant (hence the term “circus” in this post). The issue of whether the stadium is a good public use of money is not an issue for a court to decide, that’s why we have elected officials. Now, if Braman wanted to challenge the elected official’s authority to make such decisions, that’s a legal challenge. But in this case, debating whether the Marlins will leave town without a stadium or whether they cannot afford to pay more is not an issue for the court to decide.

    Anyway, Judge Cohen is scared to make a decision because she doesn’t want her ruling overturned but the end result of her decision is to give the Braman a big victory.

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  • Will an Appeal by Braman Delay the Ballpark?

  • It looks like Braman’s lawsuit is going down in flames (as expected) but a big concern may be his decision to continue wasting his money by appealing the decision.

    We are not happy with the prospect, but we are not concerned. One thing to keep in mind is that Braman did not obtain an injunction (and no court has issued an injunction) against the projects. Absent that, the county, the city, and the Marlins are going ahead full steam. Even if Braman ultimately prevails in some sort of appeal (keep in mind that appeals can’t just be a disagreement with the ruling, there has to be an obvious error), the city/county will have to find a way to pay for the ballpark or else they would have to pay the Marlins for all costs incurred as well as damages.

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  • Breaking: Judge Orders Settlement Talks in Braman Suit

  • At the opening of today’s trial involving Norman Braman’s attempt to stop the Miami Megaplan (which includes the Marlin’s Ballpark), the following happened:

    ”At this time I am ordering all the parties back in mediation,” Miami-Dade Circuit Court Judge Jeri Beth Cohen told a packed courtroom just before 1:30 p.m. Thursday.

    Her order may indicate that the parties — which had scrambled Tuesday and Wednesday to broker an agreement — may in reality be close to reaching such an accord.

    This move apparently surprised the parties but is actually common in today’s busy court systems where busy Judges prefer to force sides into a settlement, especially if one is possible as is suggested above.

    The proposed compromise seems to conflict with Norman Braman’s holier-than-thou arguments:

    Those familiar with the proceedings said the last minute negotiations centered around an offer to build a community center next to the stadium and more public use of what will be a county-owned ballpark. But no closure was reached — at least not yet.

    I think Greg Cote captured the double-standard/hypocrisy in his editorial today.

    Assuming nothing changes in the next few days, the parties will meet again with the Judge on Monday.

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  • Development Ideas Stir Around Ballpark

  • The Marlins ballpark plans on the Orange Bowl site still face some hurdles (a law suit, another vote) but that hasn’t stopped the city and private firms from working on new development projects around the ballpark. If these ideas materialize, it will only strengthen the notion that the ballpark is anchoring the redevelopment of the area.

    Here are some of the latest developments:

    • If you haven’t seen it yet, the Orange Bowl is now completely gone (at a cost of $2,348,050)
    • Plans for an MLS stadium are on hold as the City cannot commit in time to meet deadlines. The city is reserving the right to build one on site at a future date.
    • The city is now focusing on planning and building a 6,000 spot parking garage for the ballpark.
    • The developers of Midtown Miami contacted the city to pitch redevelopment ideas for the area.
    • Ballpark construction and and management contracts should be done by the end of this month.
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    • Fish@Bat
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    • Opening Day 2011

    • Dave
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    • Does anyone know the projected date of completion on the new park?

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    • I don’t care where they play, just so long as they play! With Florida teams playing like they’re all drinking a Purple a day, I’m just excited to be winning for once!

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  • Braman Law Suit to go to Trial

  • Look’s like Norman Braman’s ballpark lawsuit is going to go in front of a jury:

    Judge Pedro Echarte dismissed one count of Braman’s lawsuit against Miami-Dade County but said the remaining issues would be decided at a trial in July. Attorneys for the county wanted all of Braman’s complaints thrown out.

    In all honesty, making it to this stage just means that there is some issues of contention worthy of a jury’s consideration so the situation isn’t worse then it was a few days ago, but it does allow a sideshow to go on while the city, county, and the Marlins continue with the design and development process.

    Braman’s battle focuses on the ballpark, but is likely bigger than just that:

    Braman’s attorney, Robert Martinez, claims the plan is in violation of Florida’s constitution and the money invested is not being used as it was intended.

    “What we have alleged here and what the facts show, as far as we know them, is that the Marlins are getting a business operation delivered to them on a silver platter for business purposes,” said Martinez.

    County attorneys said spending taxpayer money on a new stadium is perfectly legal.

    As we have previously discussed, Braman was a terrible NFL owner who has a history of challenging these kinds of efforts (maybe sore that he never got his stadium in Philadelphia). Additionally, any of the transportation projects including the the 3 billion dollar funding may have long term impact on his ability to sell cars through his dealerships.

    Let’s hope this circus ends soon.

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  • Samson Talks Ballpark

  • Quick disclaimer: As we’ve heard now, the ballpark is not finalized so read this post as if the future has already happened. I’m wondering if the Marlins’ strategy is to just act like it’s a done deal so when someone in Miami tries to block it they will look bad.

    OK, back to the future:

    The official Marlins website is starting a twice monthly series where Dave Samson will talk about our beautiful new ballpark. The first such report discusses the detail in which HOK and a design committee made of of people from the city, county and the Marlins are reviewing the plans:

    “We’ve spent many hours going from room-to-room with HOK, and figuring out exactly what is happening with the stadium,” Samson said. “We’re looking at different seating areas. How the offices are going to look. How the suites are going to look. How the clubhouses are going to look. How the press boxes are going to look. Literally, we’re going room-by-room from the top level of the stadium, all the way to the bottom. That’s taking up a lot of our time right now.”

    More

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  • The More the Ballpark Seems Certain, the Less it is

  • We’ve previously discussed the concern that the Ballpark may be facing obstacles at the County level. Now comes word from Bob DuPuy that this is potentially a real problem:

    DuPuy said “the coalition at county commission level is tenuous” for the Florida Marlins’ proposed new ballpark.

    The City and County did a great job trying to ram the ballpark through as quickly as possible but it’s clear that some politicians are ready to sink this ship. I don’t know if they are sincere in their concerns or merely grandstanding for cheap political tricks but it’s time to pick sides.

    Consider me worried.

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  • Commissioner Says Ballpark Doesn’t Have Votes

  • One day, Miami-Dade will stop voting on the ballpark and just move forward. Apparently, the County has two more votes to go (ugh!) by July first and Commissioner Joe Martinez says there is not enough support. More

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    • CJ — Thanks for the insight.

      Yes, I also appreciate that the deal is not completely done but all parties involved have been behaving like it is. Unfortunately, this reliance allows various people (both opponents and opportunists) to leverage the lack of closure to get something in return or to prove a point.

      Let’s hope this will be closed soon.

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    • This is not rhetoric. There is absolute truth in what Martinez said. If the Marlins don’t stop screwing around, and give a little, they will have no stadium. By the way, their problems also extend to the City of Miami because of the public safety component. The City Commissioners want the City Fire and Police Department to hold operational control of the site. That is not what was agreed to by the respective managers. That is going to come to a head soon as well. Contrary to popular belief, the Marlins Stadium is not a done deal!!!